True Forced Loneliness

True Forced Loneliness or TFL is a term and a movement that was started by a man named Bill Greathouse (Bill1224602 on You Tube) that basically describes people that are "forced" to be alone because they perceive other women (or men in some cases) to be rejecting them because they are too shallow, high standards, among other varying reasons. They seem to think that they are entitled to have a woman or man. TFL seems to be primarily be the more urban/ebonic subgroup of the Incel community. However, the lead members seem to make YouTube videos instead of posts on websites such as Reddit.

They commonly rip on dating and pick-up gurus like Mr Locario, David DeAngelo and Mystery and Carlos Zuma, but despite not seeing that those people have helped guys understand women better. This is from one of Steve Hoca's videos In one of his videos, he said something about how guys that are getting good grades in school and are smart are having trouble attracting a woman. He might as well just say "I don't get it" and be done with it.

Lead members

 * Savvy guy [Brandon James], (born 1989), never had sex nor a girlfriend, active since 2008
 * Heedandsucceed [Steven Hernandez] (born 1991); had sex, never had a girlfriend, active since 2014
 * KentTv [Kentray Brown] (born 1994); had sex and girlfriend, active through 2013-2018, height 5'2
 * Jamil the King [Malik Curtis] (born 1994); had sex and girlfriend, active through 2013-2018
 * Blaze1 aka Infinite1 [Real name unknown]; never had sex nor girlfriend, active though 2015-2017
 * Steve Hoca; all undocumented
 * Baraka Tivo [Baraka McKray]; all undocumented, Mild autism
 * Samuel Maxwell, never had sex, had girlfriend
 * BigBossCalvin83, never had sex nor a girlfriend, active since 2011