Thread:Kevin Neu/@comment-34834548-20180305194207/@comment-24045896-20180307163059

I'm responding in a q & a type way

Facts:

1)  There is no actual proof that Alex was the one that did this.

If you are mentioning about the 2016 vidcon controversy That's why I stated "It is widely believed that Jaiden was referring to Alex as the one who showed her face. "

2) Alex supporting Jaiden is not irrelevant because it shows that if he was the one that did it - he was not being intentionally malicious.

Hmm, i suppose so but I think that statement should be compressed so that it would be more relevant to the topic

3) If Alex was the person that did this - we have no idea if he apologized to jaiden in private - or what her response was.  Isn't it possible that Jaiden was entirely rude to Alex off camera causing alex to not want to partipate in a response.  Or maybe Alex just doesnt want to promote drama on his channel.  We also don't know how long jaiden spoke to Alex for about removing the video- it could have been a 3 minute conversation - and Alex thought nothing of it and moved on - and then several months later was blindsided by a public posting shaming him.

Jaiden has also not promoted drama on the channel she didn't even say it was Alex and you may think she would know that people would know it was Alex but that's guesswork at best. They are both very cautious about their appearances as they know that many people look up to them and see them as their inspirations or even role model, they both seem to want people to be good to each other from the videos I've seen. It's also not plausible that either of them act as rude as internet trolls to people behind the scenes in my opinion as by now if they do talk impolitely to others there would have already been a big controversy. Also, I should probably mention that it was a public apology in the article now that I think about it (unless you have evidence that he has issued a public apology)

4) You keep removing my comments about jaiden posting videos on his channel after the incident. which is factual - she was in the pokemon video and that ben and beans halloween video

It seems irrelevant to the article if you mind please say why you would want to include it

5) Calling these things controversies is slanted and biased. a little too TMZ for my taste.

Yeah I also don't like it but when i was reading the rules they said you should reference some articles when making a page i referenced this http://youtube.wikia.com/wiki/PewDiePie I'm also trying to maintain a consistent style for the wiki as it looks better

Pizza Challenge

1) Have you seen this video?  He clearly said that shes crying because it has pineapples - and most people dont like pineapple pizza.... which you continually remove.

That only adds why he made her cry so in my mind its like a Behind the scenes of why he made her cry for the animation challenge, and seems a bit irrelevant for the subarticle and thats why I removed it (dispute with why you think it should be added if you want to)

2) Again, did you see the video?  Alex clearly was positive about jaiden the whole time and said she was great and stuff....

This also seems a bit irrelevant for the subarticle so that's why I removed it (dispute with why you think it should be added if you want to).

3) Stating his issued statement on the pizza challenge is "ingenuine" is not factual'

Saying "coul be considered ingenuine" and saying "what he said is ingenuine" is different could means that it can be interpreted as ingenuine where as "what he said is ingenuine" states that yes he didnt mean anything he said

4) In order for Alex to know about her eating disorder - he would 1. have to be the person she was talking about in the 2016 thing.  2. - we would have to know that he saw this video (which its entirely possible he didn't - and 3 - its 100% possible that even if he did know,  it completely skipped his mind. I'm sure he's not reading his jaiden notes every morning before he makes videos )

This is after her video btw. He probably know she had an eating disorder due to the fact that a number of  people would have tweeted or commented on his video something like "she had a eating disorder how could you do this to her" or " are you who she was talking about on her video?" For number 3 is after the "It is worth noting that he had already known that Jaiden had an eating disorder due to the fact that he was called out on the 2016 vidcon controversy." is what I'm assuming you're talking about which is co-related to the previous point he probably reads his youtube comments and the reason he deleted his vlog is probably because people were saying "how could you do this when...." otherwise why would he delete his vlogs?

All that said - can we meet somewhere in the middle on some shorter - one paragraph versions of the story..... this seems unnecessarily long - I feel like you are writing them longer out of spite for me editing them - which seems unfair to alex -